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    C'est bien entendu pour elle que j'ai eu envie de publier ces photos...
    Julia Roberts ? ben...euh...PAS dans ce film 
    Je lui rendrai hommage...plus tard...pour une  autre histoire

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    A Surprise!

    10/10
    Author: Maxi-14 from West Coast
    6 May 2005

    *** This review may contain spoilers ***

    I loved Ocean's Eleven so I was hesitant to watch the sequel but this didn't fall flat the way so many sequels do. It is strange in that it builds off the original, you would be lost without previous knowledge of Ocean's Eleven, but yet it has an entirely new tone and feeling as well as European look rather than the Vegas glitz of the first movie. I was very happy that all of the originals came back for the sequel. If you like a good action movie that keeps you guessing then this movie is for you. It was very nice to see Brad Pitt's character fleshed out more in this movie. I would like to have seen more of the banter between the Malloy brother characters but on the whole the movie left me wondering if there will be an Ocean's 13. There seemed to be an opening for one with where they left the Night Fox at the end of Ocean's Twelve.

    a delightfully inventive artsy masterpiece
    10/10
    Author: tree_hugger4ever from United States
    25 April 2005

    When I heard there was going to be a sequel to Ocean's Eleven, I thought "oh great, just another way for Hollywood to squeeze all the money it can out of an old idea." But when I saw it my jaw dropped. This is not as good as the first, it far surpasses it.I for one thought the cinematography was brilliant, the most inventive there has been for quite a while. This is a feast for the eyes, a veritable banquet of colour and imagery, with Europe as it's perfect backdrop. The writing was superb. Far from the confusing mess I have heard it described as, the plot is rich and full, with enough meat to keep the mind well active as it is being entertained.

    The movie was smart and funny without taking itself too seriously (e.i. Julia Roberts pretending to be herself). The situations were, at times, unbelievable even absurd, but what point is there in a movie that does not stretch the bonds of reality just a little bit. If you want real life sit on a street corner and observe.The music was prefect for the movie, in stuck the exact right chords in the exact right places. it fit in to the over all feel of whimsy that was prominent through out film.As for the acting, there was no weak link. Matt Damon in particular was fantastic.

    I love the seen in the restaurant were Pitt and Clooney are talking in a fake code, Damon did exactly what he was suppose to do and produced a adorable, lovable character, without taking it too far, or taking himself too seriously. My advice to you is, if you want a typical mainstream movie, better save your money for Pirates of the Caribbean 2, but if you want a delightfully inventive artsy masterpiece Ocean's twelve is the one for you.

    The Second Time Around
    10/10
    Author: nycritic
    30 May 2007

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    Now, the trick with a sequel to a remake of a lesser movie is this: how to repeat the magic without making it a bland retread of what's been seen before? Well. It's a truth universally acknowledged that when a film revolves around a heist that goes smoothly even when the victim may eventually retaliate, the only thing its sequel do is go the opposite direction: build momentum around another heist that will redeem our pack of thieves from their state of disgrace and send the story off some odd directions with characters who have their own ulterior motives. If you look closely you can actually feel the noose slowly start tightening itself around Danny Ocean's group.

    Eccentrics pop in and out, never to be seen again, leaving their own mark -- this is a light ballet gliding towards the moment when everything converges, gets messed up... and to say more would be criminal. You have to experience it on your own. See how one of the most ballsy in-jokes involving a certain Oscar-winning actress from one of Soderbergh's earlier films obliquely leads to the denouement where not one, but two double-climaxes -- one frankly hilarious, fraught with its own little family dysfunction, the other sweetly emotional -- virtually sweep the rug off of you. If that isn't entertainment, I don't know what is.

    Most fun I have ever had watching a film.
    10/10
    Author: DrLecter996 from USA
    16 April 2005

    This movie was absolutely unbelievable in every sense of the word. And guess what....the first time i saw it in theaters...i basically left in tears, went home, voted on IMDb and gave it a 1. I thought it was terrible, i didn't understand a thing i had just seen. In this movie there are a lot of things to follow...it isn't like "11" where the movie is handed to you and if you don't understand it you should be hospitalized. This movie takes more then one viewing...i saw it twice in theaters and bought the DVD yesterday and watched it again. This movie is #5 on my top 25 only beaten by Goodfellas and the 3 Die Hards. And even if the movie had been terrible, the music would still make it a decent movie. the cast did a great job and Catherine Zeta-Jones is probably the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in film...something about her just takes my breath away.

    Way underrated
    10/10
    Author: kyle-cruse from California
    11 August 2008

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    "Ocean's Twelve" is possibly the most underrated film I've ever seen. If you haven't seen the film, watch it now (or better yet after seeing "Ocean's Eleven"). Forgive me for giving away scenes of this film, but I cannot properly describe what I love about it without doing so. Everything about this movie is brilliant, and you won't realize that from seeing it only once. By watching it many times with my family, I've found that this film is chock-full or little surprises and ingenious quotes you won't help but remember; from the great gag with Julia Roberts pretending to be herself (including a cameo with Bruce Willis) to the Night Fox's (an excellent character) attempt to steal the artifact Danny and his gang are after, the plot and script are excellent. If you only choose to see the film once, you'll be not only confused but possibly bored with the film. Multiple viewings will cause you to see how amazing this film is. In my opinion, it's the best of the "Ocean's" series.**** out of ****

    Inspired silliness and the best looking movie you'll see all year
    10/10
    Author: Martin Bradley (MOscarbradley@aol.com) from Derry, Ireland
    10 June 2007

    This may be number two in what is another franchise but Steven Soderbergh's love of movies and the movie-making process is evident in every fabulous looking frame, (this is probably the best-looking movie you'll see all year), and if the extremely daft plot, (there are daft heist movies and then there is "Ocean's 12"), could be scribbled on the back of a postage stamp this is also the most sheerly enjoyable film I have seen in a very long time.As for that daft plot, it exists only as an excuse to do a follow-up to the hugely successful "Ocean's 11". It's complicated, at times it's basically non-existent and this movie, more than the last one, often feels like a bunch of pals goofing around in front of the camera; (remember the very first "Ocean's 11" with the Rat Pack? Well, that's what killed it).

    The difference here is that everyone on screen is having a ball and it's infectious and Soderbergh is a master stylist and a great innovator who loves playing fast and loose with plot mechanics. None of it may make the slightest bit of sense yet there is not a redundant moment in the whole movie. Clooney, Damon, Pitt, Reiner and Gould are all marvellous; Julia Roberts has one great scene in which her character Tess passes herself off as ... Julia Roberts and Catherine Zeta-Jones works wonders the the film's only misbegotten character, Pitt's love interest who happens to be the female detective on everybody's tail. It may be inspired silliness but I loved it to bits and can't wait to see "Ocean's 13".

    Great
    10/10
    Author: mldavid-1 from Canada
    14 January 2005

    Really great movie. Honestly, it's better than the first one. The main reason I liked the movie is that it's so beautiful. It as an amazing 70's look and the soundtrack is incredible. Just one thing tough : why is Catherine Zeta Jones' an actress??? She is always BAD and Ocean's Twelve confirms it!!! They also push a little too much with Julia Roberts' part, it's a little too risky, and honestly, it does not really worked for me. It's a little incoherent at the end. It opens way too much on something we're no sure about. Globally, I can't believe the ideas! It's never boring and quite funny. The funniest part?... when Danny and Rusty are waiting to go on the job and watching movie while pouring wine.

    weird chemistry
    10/10
    Author: Stuart Ian Burns from Liverpool, England
    28 August 2005

    There are certain times at the cinema when it slowly becomes clear that you're the only person who is loving the film. A weird chemistry occurs in which your enjoyment of the evening is diametrically opposed to everyone elses. And so it was tonight during Ocean's Twelve. It really isn't the film anyone was expecting, but that actually means is so much better. If you're a fan of the first film because of all the heist hijinks you'll probably hate this. If you're a fan of Steven Soderbergh and seen all of his films, you'll just love it.

    I don't want to talk about the plot here because frankly you wouldn't believe me. Just when you think the film is going to settle down into some kind of recognisable rhythm, something entirely unexpected is thrown in turning everything on it's head. You know the moment at the end of the first film when everything you thought you saw turned out to be something different? Pretty much every scene here is like that. Which is probably were I and nearly all the mean spirited reviews I've read part company. The general feeling seems to be that the plot was thrown together and the story lacks structure. Well yes that's the point. Soderbergh's messing about with what you're allowed to do in a so-called typical Hollywood sequel. It's experimental rather than erratic.

    I'll admit to a degree that is a greatest hits of Soderbergh's greatest hits, with a variety of film stock and messy camera angles on display. Flashbacks are in full evidence as are the freeze frames and captions in multiple fonts. But so what? Would it have been better if some hack had been hired to trot out a clone of the first film, clinically perfect without any passion? He should be applauded for not making the same movie again, opting instead for something which resembles his own Full Frontal, with obscure film in-jokes intact. Go with an open mind and a clear heart.

    This movie is awesome!!!!
    10/10
    Author: Janine Todd from United States
    6 January 2005

    I went and saw this movie last night and as the first one I loved the second one. The best part is when Tess(Julia Roberts) has to pretend to be herself. And the fact that they pulled it off(I knew they would) and trumped the Italian guy. The scenery of Lake Como was awesome. Did they film it at George Clooney's villa? When Rusty takes Isabel to meet her father made me cry. I didn't meet my dad until late in life and it really touched me to see his character cry when meeting her for the first time, as if he was seeing her born for the first time. All in all this movie rocks. Keep movies like these coming. The only part of the movie I didn't quite understand was when they are all arrested and then Lynus's mom comes in and tries to get him to testify against his friends. Then they all leave. What were they let go? Was it all apart of a plan to catch the Italian guy? Either way this movie was great I wish they'd think about doing a third one cause I can't get enough of these guys.

    Ocean's Twelve, sub-par to Eleven, but great for what it is
    10/10
    Author: reneweddan from United States
    26 September 2010

    Sure, this movie wasn't as good as the prequel, but it is great for what it is... a comedic heist film with the best cast ever.This movie lives up to the star power shown in Ocean's Eleven, but it has a different twist of humour. Those who are heavily criticizing this film should relax, it's not meant to be a film that deserves high praise, but it shouldn't be under scrutiny for being what it is... a feel-good film.

    What I highly enjoy about the Ocean's Trilogy is being able to watch a film that brings together great talent, some of the biggest names of my own generation, and watching them in a comedic heist film that deserves some popcorn and laughs.This movie is highly underrated, not because of how great the storyline is, but because of how great the entire package is.

    Enjoy it for what it is.






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    When Bruce Willis is in Tess's hotel room, Linus says to Bruce, "We're looking to come off this pregnancy thing strong. You know, that little statue on the mantle starts smirking at you after a while, know what I mean?" Bruce says no, he doesn't. Both Julia Roberts, whom he refers to, and Matt Damon have been awarded Oscars, while Willis has not.
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    George Clooney was 42 years old at the time of filming the scene in which the other actors guess his age.
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    While on production in Rome, Brad Pitt and George Clooney were not allowed back into the hotel because the doorman thought they were vagrants after the actors were caught in a rain storm while jogging.
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    Before filming began, Brad Pitt put out a memo to all crew members stating that they only address George Clooney as his character's name Danny Ocean or Mr. Ocean. Eventually Clooney found out about this and got back at Pitt by putting bumper stickers on the back of his car that read "I'm gay and I vote" and "Small penis on board".
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    Bruce Willis, who appears as himself in the film, was originally signed to play Danny Ocean in Ocean's Eleven (2001), but pulled out due to scheduling conflicts.
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    The Night Fox's mansion is on the shores of Lake Como in Italy. The name of the city overlooking Lake Como is Bellagio. The city and the lake were the inspiration for the design of the Bellagio casino in Las Vegas, site of the heist in Ocean's Eleven (2001).
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    In the rough working draft of the script, Clint Eastwood was penciled in for a cameo appearance to play the role of Matt Damon's (Linus Caldwell's) father, Bobby Caldwell.
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    Matt Damon requested just prior to the beginning of production that the script be revised so that his character would have a smaller role in the story. Damon had just finished shooting La mort dans la peau (2004) and claimed that he was too exhausted to play a character that had such a major role in the movie. Director Steven Soderbergh denied Damon's request, claiming that he felt Damon's character was integral to the plot and that giving Damon less screen time would diminish his character's impact on the plot.
     
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    The necklace that Brad Pitt wears in the movie is a replica of his wedding ring that he wore while married to Jennifer Aniston.
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    When Linus finally speaks to the gibberish-tooting Matsui, the words he speaks are from the Led Zeppelin song "Kashmir", as Rusty is quick to point out when they step outside. ("Kashmir?")
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    The story of this film was taken from "Honor Among Thieves", a screenplay treatment written by George Nolfi that was originally intended to be a John Woo vehicle. When it was decided that Ocean's Eleven (2001) was going to have a sequel, Warner Bros. asked Nolfi to rewrite the script, adjusting it for the Ocean's Eleven characters.
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    Brad Pitt and George Clooney dress up in the traveling outfits of London football team Arsenal FC, while Yen gets transported in a travel bag carrying the Arsenal crest.
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    Steven Soderbergh insisted that this film be made on the same budget as the original Ocean's Eleven (2001).
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    During the scene on the train platform, Danny and Basher discuss Danny's age. The trailer features more lines between the two of them from this same scene, which did not make it into the final movie.
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    Ellen Barkin, who would play Abigail Sponder in the sequel Ocean's 13 (2007), actually shot a small cameo for this film however it was ultimately cut. It can however be seen on the blu-ray release (under the additional footage section, the "Meet the Team, Again" sequence).
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    During the sequence the audience is re-introduced to the characters, Reuben Tishkoff (Elliott Gould) is getting a tarot card reading. On the table, the card "Five of Wands" out of the Raider Waite deck can be seen. This card mainly symbolizes an upcoming competition between two parts.
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    Europol is located in The Hague, and not in Amsterdam, as suggested in the movie. The scenes at the Europol office with Isabel were not shot in the Europol building, but rather in the city hall of The Hague. The Hague is about 50km south of Amsterdam.
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    Peter Fonda filmed a cameo as Bobby Caldwell, Linus's father, but it didn't make the final cut.
     
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    The video camera that Yen uses while in the hotel room is a Canon XL1S. For director Steven Soderbergh's low-budget/star-studded indie film Full Frontal (2002), he used the same camcorder to shoot the film and keep the budget low.
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    The museum intended to be robbed has the name "Galleria D'Arte di Roma" on the outside, but the building is not actually one of the countless museums in Rome (although some exhibitions are held there), but rather the British School at Rome located in the lands of Villa Borghese.
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    The scene at the Centraal Station in Amsterdam was actually shot at station Haarlem, because the building has more character.
     
    The crew talk about the film Miller's Crossing, which Albert Finney (who's in the end of this film) starred in.
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    The drysuits used by the gang were custom made for the production in two weeks by husband-and-wife team Gareth and Tina Roberts of Gryphon Watersports in Staffordshire, England. Only one of the ten suits ordered had to be fully functioning and waterproof, but the tight deadline still meant that the couple had to work round the clock to get the suits ready in time for the shoot in Amsterdam.
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    Ricky Gervais turned down the role of Basher's engineer. He said, "Why say a couple of lines opposite Brad Pitt when I could be playing a lead back home?" (je trouve que cet acteur est VRAIMENT insignifiant)
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    Shooting in the Netherlands caused some train delays. The Thalys that was used in the film accidentally broke the upper contact wire. Since the wire broke at the point where several wires connected, the power on several tracks was lost. It took two hours to undo the damage.
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    The mark for the first theft in Amsterdam is named van der Woude. One of the second unit assistant directors for the film was Basti Van Der Woude. He actually appears briefly in one scene, as the taller of the two suit-wearing gentlemen accompanying Cherry Jones.
     
    The white van in which the Fabergé egg is being transported in, is actually from an existing security company, whose name is visible on the side in certain shots (Group 4 Falck). They handle security and emergency services (ambulance and fire brigade) in the UK and Denmark.
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    Some scenes which suppose to be on Amsterdam station were filmed at Haarlem train station (20 km away). Signs on the platform indicates "Amsterdam centraal" but on the real platform it's saying "Amsterdam Centraal".

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    The trivia items below may give away important plot points.

    The transportation of the Fabergé Egg is analogous to the real world transport of the Cullinan Diamond in 1905. At 3106 uncut carats, transporting it safely from South Africa to England posed a bit of a problem with regards to security. Detectives from London were placed upon a steamer ship that was rumored to carry the stone, but this was a diversionary tactic. The stone on that ship was a fake, meant to attract those who would be interested in stealing it. The actual diamond was sent to England in a plain box via parcel post.
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    The movie that the "real" Julia Roberts is discussing in L.A. is "Clowns Can't Sleep" which was the working title for the script of this movie.





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