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© DR - IL ETAIT UNE FOIS EN AMERIQUE (1984) p10
23/10/2012 16:33
Putain...cke cé flou...c'est pas possible de voir ça....j'chuis vert vert vert!!!!
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Fiche technique
Titre : Il était une fois en Amérique
Titre original : Once Upon a Time in America
Réalisation : Sergio Leone
Scénario : Leonardo Benvenuti, Piero De Bernardi,
Enrico Medioli, Franco Arcalli,
Franco Ferrini (en) et Sergio Leone,
d'après le roman The Hoods de Harry Grey
Production : Arnon Milchan et Claudio Mancini
Société de production : P.S.O. International
Distribution : Warner Bros. Pictures
Musique : Ennio Morricone
Direction artistique : Carlo Simi
Costumes : Gabriella Pescucci
Photographie : Tonino Delli Colli
Son : Jean-Pierre RUH, Fausto Ancillai
nota : il existe 2 doublages différents en français.
Montage : Nino Baragli
Budget : 30 000 000 $
Pays d'origine : États-Unis et Italie
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Mesmerizing and haunting tale of love, greed, regret, betrayal and revenge
Author: jeanpaul-3 from Seattle
29 October 1999
This is, for me, one of the finest examples of cinematic art. It isn't a simple, cut-n-dried 90 minute little package that gets wrapped up with a pretty bow at the end. You get pulled in by the enigmatic opening that unwinds the threads of the story to be found later. For many people having half an hour of purely visual story telling, of stories that are only mysteries at that point, before anything becomes truly linear is difficult to follow and discourages to many people. Our own memories are only snippets that only become linear as we concentrate on scenes from our lives.
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Once Upon a Time in America is like that as we follow Noodles through the `significant' part of his life - the times that formed him. When the story actually starts, we meet the girl that he always loved but could never have.David `Noodles' Aaronson (DeNiro) was a kid on the very mean streets of Brooklyn when organized crime was born in America and he grew into and out of it. That's the simplest synopsis of the plot. The reality is that this isn't a movie about gangsters. Being a gangster is the easiest way for Noodles to survive and get ahead, but it also alienates and ruins his one love. Whenever he is close to giving himself to Deborah he always gets pulled back into the gang, in some form or another.
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DeNiro's portrayal is of a gangster, through and through, who also has a conscience that, while not preventing him from being a ruthless killer, rules his life with regret, remorse and guilt. Leone takes a bit of poet/historic license by showing the Brooklyn Bridge being built in the background (the bridge had been built 40 years before), but it symbolizes Noodles' own growth. When the bridge is just pilings and incomplete towers, Noodles is just forming his future. By the time the bridge is complete, Noodles is nothing but a gangster and the bridge is majestic.
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When he returns 35 years later our view of the bridge is from under a freeway -- the world has moved along, but the bridge and Noodles are just as they were.The length: If you're looking for a brief distraction that you'll barely remember 30 minutes later, this isn't the movie for you. However, if you are prepared and able to be undistributed for the nearly 4 hours that this film uses to compress a lifetime -- you will be rewarded with many facets of thought and examination.
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© DR - IL ETAIT UNE FOIS EN AMERIQUE (1984) p11
23/10/2012 16:37
Lieux de tournage
États-Unis :
New York, Brooklyn : Dumbo (c'est à l'angle de Water Street et
de Washington Street que l'on trouve la vue sur le Manhattan Bridge
avec l'Empire State Building en arrière-plan, affiche du film) et
le sud de Williamsburg (en particulier la South 6th Street
avec le Williamsburg Bridge).
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New Jersey
Floride : St. Petersburg
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Canada :
Montréal
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Italie :
Venise (Le Lido)
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France,
Paris : Gare du Nord (scènes de la consigne,
départ de Deborah pour Hollywood)
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Format : Couleurs (Eastmancolor - Kodak) - 1,85:1 -
Son mono - Stéréophonique Dolby -
deuxième doublage 35 mm
Genre : drame, gangster, romance
Durée : 220 min
Dates de sortie :
États-Unis : 17 février 1984,
première à New York et
1er juin 1984 sur le reste du territoire
France : 23 mai 1984
Italie : 1er juin 1984
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© DR - IL ETAIT UNE FOIS EN AMERIQUE (1984) p12
23/10/2012 16:44
Raide déf le Noodle
Cette grande fresque fut tournée de juin 1982 à mars 1983. Dans un premier temps, Leone envisagea d'édifier tous les décors à Cinecittà (célèbre studio d'Italie).Mais des repérages dans le Lower East Side de New York le séduisirent à tel point qu'il fit reconstituer les structures de trois rues entières dans le style des années 1930, pour les monter ensuite sur des immeubles new-yorkais déjà existants (technique employée dans Le Parrain).
D'autres scènes furent tournées à Miami, Boston, Montréal, Hong Kong, Paris, Nice, Venise, Ankara, allant de simples prises de vue à certaines scènes essentielles au long métrage. À Paris, les scènes de la consigne furent tournées à la gare du Nord.Aménagée de manière à évoquer Grand Central Terminal de New York, elle servit aussi de décor au départ de Deborah pour Hollywood.Quand son train quitte la gare, découvrant à droite les voitures restées à quai, on distingue très nettement le logo de la SNCF sur le dernier wagon. En outre on peut lire, au-dessus du train à l'arrêt, « voie 13 » en français.
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A Profound Expression of Truth Regarding Friendship and Betrayal
Author: RobertCartland (RobertCartland@oco.net) from Los Angeles
17 January 2000
This film is a profound expression of truth regarding friendship and betrayal. Noodles, played by Robert De Niro and Scott Tiler (during childhood), is a simple man and a thug with one credo: you can battle the entire world but you never betray a friend. During the course of this film we experience various pieces of Noodles's life, from childhood, through young adulthood and old age. We learn what happens to his friends, his foes and the love of his life, Deborah.
The time span considered is long, including Noodles's childhood shortly after the turn of the century, through the prohibition era, and finally the 1960's.The film is about relationships; the many years Noodles spends away from his friends receive only a cursory mention. The film, like life and memories, unfolds slowly and reflectively. Sergio Leone's cuts are long and each scene is beautifully amplified my Ennio Morricone's haunting score. The story is not told chronologically. Instead, the chapters of the story are slowly revealed like pieces of a great jigsaw puzzle. Each delicious piece might make us laugh, or cry, or smile, or feel shock.
But, as each piece falls into place, a mystery unfolds. When the final piece is revealed, the true essence of the story becomes clear and a sad and beautiful tapestry comes into view.This film is a true masterpiece, expressing a profound statement about friendship and betrayal, with fantastic acting, writing, directing and music. There is a shortened, two-and-a-half-hour version of the film released that is a disaster. It is like trying to understand a jigsaw puzzle with half of the pieces missing. The original four-hour film can be viewed and enjoyed several times and each time the viewer will see something new.
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© DR - IL ETAIT UNE FOIS EN AMERIQUE (1984) p13
23/10/2012 16:55
Elisabeth Mc Govern (Rebecca)
Montage
C'est au montage du film que le réalisateur va se heurter à la tâche la plus difficile de l'entreprise. En effet, Leone a signé un accord avec la Warner pour une durée ne dépassant pas les 2 h 45. Or, lors du premier montage, le film atteint les 4 h 25.Dans un but purement artistique et de logique narrative, Leone ne peut se résoudre à réduire son film à plus de 3 h 40. Le film sera distribué tel quel en France, et surtout lors du festival de Cannes, où il ne figure qu'en Hors compétition.
Les critiques sont élogieuses. Cependant le film n'arrivera pas à convaincre un large public. Avec 1,5 million de spectateurs en France, il est très loin des 15 millions d'Il était une fois dans l'Ouest.Seulement voilà, il ne s'agit que de la France, pays qui d'ailleurs est le seul à avoir sans cesse respecté le montage final de divers metteurs en scène dont Sergio Leone (dont la durée des films dépassaient les 3 h pour la trilogie des Il était une fois).Partout ailleurs, le montage du film est alors amputé. Même dans son propre pays, en Italie, les projectionnistes râlent auprès de Sergio Leone. Mais c'est aux États-Unis que le réalisateur subira les pires préjudices. Le film sera fortement réduit: 2 h 20.
Mais ce n'est pas tout, ce qui faisait la force de la narration et du film en lui-même était son montage qui voyageait entre passé(s), présent(s) et futur. Ici tout est replacé dans un ordre chronologique dénaturant alors tout le film. (Putain quels sales cons!!!)Tout cela explique le désastre aux États-Unis, où le film ne récolta que 2,5 millions de dollars de recettes et des critiques houleuses. Il fut complètement évincé de la cérémonie des Oscars (où Ennio Morricone aurait pu concourir au prix de la musique si il avait été crédité au générique américain)
Une version restaurée, avec 24 minutes supplémentaires, a été projetée le 18 mai 2012 lors du Festival de Cannes. La restauration a été réalisée par la cinémathèque de Bologne, aidée par la Film Foundation de Martin Scorsese, selon les volontés de montage de Sergio Leone.On a recensé pas moins de 8 versions avec des durées différentes : 1. Première version US en salle de 139 min. (143 >min. d'après certaines sources) 2. 192 min. version TV américaine(source: Leonard Maltin) 3. 224. min. version "R" dite version longue 4. 225 min. deuxième version US en salle(en 1984) 5. 226 min. version VHS (en 1994) 6. 227 min. director's cut (sous titrée en japonais) 7. 236 min. version italienne 8. 265 min. version pour la télévision italienne
La critique US des spectateurs ImdB
Best movie ever made?
Author: sebwalrusfr from France
25 March 2006
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Simply the best movie ever made. Dot.Life. Love. Friendship. Nostalgia. Souvenirs. Childhood. Adulthood. Betrayal. Children's dreams. Psychology. Sex. Manhood. Womanhood. Romance. Illusions. Acting. Ambition. Glory. Fate. Masochism. Sadism. History. Death...
Some even say it's a movie on Italian Mafia...This movie is to cinema what "A day in the life" is to modern music : an evocation of what life is, in a global approach, with its darker sides and its epic moments, and in the end everything is vain and you die. Magnified as always by the superb work of Ennio Morricone, and the perfect acting of De Niro and Woods, it was for Sergio Leone THE movie of his life, his long time cherished plan, his masterpiece to end with. Additionally, it has become THE movie of the 20th century.
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© DR - IL ETAIT UNE FOIS EN AMERIQUE (1984) p14
23/10/2012 17:00
En haut à gauche James Wood (Max)
Une des scènes les plus célèbres du film est la mort d'un des adolescents de la bande au pied du pont de Manhattan, à l'angle de Water Street et Adams Street, scène sublimée par la musique d'Ennio Morricone et le ralenti.Ce plan du pont de Manhattan est un classique du cinéma qui fut par la suite beaucoup repris dans diverses productions, une des dernières en date étant le King Kong de Peter Jackson.Actuellement, ce quartier de Brooklyn-Dumbo-a limité l'accès de ce site aux diverses productions suite aux plaintes des riverains.
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On par with "The Godfather" and "Goodfellas"...
Author: MovieAddict2013 from UK
19 August 2003
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
"Once Upon a Time in America" is a film set free of time; it spans many different years and, like "Citizen Kane," never tells the audience where it is. As many times as I watch it, I can never guess what is going to happen next.And watching "Once Upon a Time in America" on the new extended DVD is like revisiting an old friend, finally seeing a masterpiece in its entirety. Many people complained of the choppiness in the three-hour-version of the film originally released in 1984 - and the new four hour version puts all the pieces together and is truly marvelous to behold.
This is the dirty, gritty version of "The Godfather." It has an incredible amount of violence, especially for a film made almost twenty years ago. I'm not sure how much violence, sexual content and so on was in the original cut, but this extended version is pretty close to an NC-17 rating.The film stars Robert De Niro in one of his most memorable yet forgotten roles. He plays Noodles, a gangster operating sometime during the 1930s. Noodles grew up during the early 1900s, and on the streets he and four other kids started their own crime operation.
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After a local crime lord named Bugsy gets jealous and murders the youngest member of Noodles' operation, Noodles returns the favor and kills Bugsy. Apprehended by police, Noodles is sent to jail for years.Sometime, years later, Noodles is released into the free world. He isn't a changed man, either. His old crime buddy Max (James Woods) picks him up and introduces him to the old gang members. Soon they are back in business, working for Frankie (Joe Pesci).
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This is the truest definition of an epic. "Once Upon a Time in America" is one of the most forgotten gangster films, and yet it is ironically one of the best. It took director Sergio Leone almost ten years to get this motion picture to the screen. Sergio's original script treatment - the outline for the story - was 200 pages long. Just the outline. Soon he employed numerous writers to redo the script, and they bounced it up to 400 pages. There is a saying that for every page in a film script, there is one minute of screen-time. You do the math.
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After the long scriptwriting process, they then had to get permission to film the movie, from the author of the novel this film is based upon. Then, after that struggle, there came the film itself. How to turn such a bold narrative into a compelling film? What techniques should be used? Where to start?The beginning of the film opens up during the 1930s or sometime around then, fast-forwards to the 1960s, then flashbacks to the early 1900s. It skips around a lot. This makes the viewer active, trying to figure out where and when they are. It is an element that gives a film rewatchability.
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Roger Ebert pointed out that "Citizen Kane" is set free of chronology, and the same goes for "Once Upon a Time in America." Sergio Leone is the master of extreme close-ups and wide frame shots, seen in "Fistful of Dollars" and here with wide shots of busy streets. In one scene a young girl (pre-stardom Jennifer Connelly) walks along a street, and Leone pulls the camera up, up, up and back, back, back, revealing the entire street. Soon she is lost in the crowd. The same thing is done with De Niro's character as a child, and we lose image of him in the crowd, but then Sergio uses an almost invisible dissolve and we come back upon him.
The acting by De Niro is superb. His character, Noodles, is probably the character in this film who is most in-touch with his feelings. We often feel for him, but numerous times in the film he does things disturbing and sickening and we are repulsed. One scene extended in the DVD is the controversial rape scene between De Niro and Elizabeth McGovern. After it is all over, Noodles climbs out of the back seat of the car and walks to the side of the road, standing there, looking into the distance. Many people say this is guilt because he knows what he has done and is ashamed. I don't think so.
During the film he rapes numerous women and doesn't seem to mind at all. I think the point Leone was trying to make is that De Niro's character has no idea how to treat or respect women. His entire life he grew up around women who were treated as objects (such as the young prostitute who lived in his apartment complex). So when Noodles stands by the side of the road, this is not from the guilt of what he has done - it is from the guilt of not knowing how to treat a woman, not knowing what to say, not knowing what to do. Not knowing how to respect her.
His entire life he was taught that women were just there for pleasure, but when he stands by the road this is a sign that Noodles is starting to think this may all be wrong. It is the guilt of naivety, not self-awareness."Once Upon a Time" is the master of gangster flicks. Two other tremendous gangster flicks, "The Godfather" and "Goodfellas," have gotten the respect they rightfully deserve over the years - but "Once Upon a Time in America" has been seemingly ignored - up until know. I hope that this DVD sparks a newfound interest in the film, because no one should go a lifetime without seeing this moving motion picture.
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